How about doing mentioned klippel test, just to be sure about those percentages?
I will.
Hence the "Absolutely" beginning to my quoted answer.
Right, for example, if someone rubbed Electret Cream on some cables and asked me to listen (and no be so dependent upon common sense and be so close minded, unlike the "hear something", "try everything" crowd), because measurements down to the thermal noise level showed "differences". I would expect to "hear nothing" and proceed to "hear nothing". Now would that be because of my "hear nothing" expectation bias, or because there was "nothing to hear"?
Whoa, the last time I heard that term, it was being used in Clark Jonhsen's "Wood Effect", nicely reviewed here as The Witch Effect. You do agree that even if Triple Blind is used to test nothing, nothing will be the result?
I agree.
Btw, do you see Klippel recommending to transducer manufacturers that they use thinner silver voice coil windings in their drivers because they sound "better"? Or add series resistance to the drivers using magic wire to improve "details"?
cheers,
AJ
On the same token, is it possible (or probable) that during your sighted, uncontrolled listening, where you "hear something", that there are other factors in play that are not fully realized?
If one always "likes" the most expensive,the most "recommended" etc....then,yes.But this is not always the case.Many times the brain can be "biased" in favor of our pocket...
,or it even has true preferences ???
I believe someone said that repeating the same thing over and over, then expecting different results, was the definition of insanity
You really ought to read up on "subconscious", to see what conscious control you have over it. Just basic knowledge of human psychology would go a looong way in these threads. Or maybe notIf one always "likes" the most expensive,the most "recommended" etc....then,yes.But this is not always the case.Many times the brain can be "biased" in favor of our pocket...
.cheers,
AJ
Why do you say that? It is just anecdotal conjecture, not science!
If some believe in the tooth fairy and some not, is the truth likely to be somewhere in between?
Good luck getting someone to bic their head
Just sayin' I think I have seen one picture of SY for 3 secs and can remember what he looks like.
OK. To be consistent then, what about the multiple, "I can't hear any difference" during the blind part of a test?
Er or maybe I am remembering wrong. I just woke up against my own free will when I wrote that. But isn't SY bald?What is this, to bic their head?
Ah ha! I see now ha ha. Anyway TG wouldn't see anyone until after the test so no need to bicEr or maybe I am remembering wrong. I just woke up against my own free will when I wrote that. But isn't SY bald?
PS I have no idea if Sy is or isn't....... it is what is or isn't inside that counts.
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Since there is all of this hoopla over the Klippel testing, I took it and here are my results.
Equipment used: M-audio 2496 soundcard, interconnects of my own manufacture (24ga 5-nines silver in 18ga teflon tubing), Dodd Audio Battery powered Buffer and Stereo Amp, Kimber 8TC speaker cable, Jordan JX92S run full range.
Dave
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Sorry, don't know what made me think you use pro-amps. As said I don't know any of your equipment.
Congratulations, then why do you ask me?
Usually better conductor quality and dielectric material will cost more unless I miss something.
Interesting cables, I like twisted pair cable for IC's, never tried coax cable on speakers, will try it sometime.
Comment? I was hoping you would take the tests
cheers,
AJ
It would be interesting, unfortunately I'm not into computer sound, only got onboard sound (it stopped working about six months ago
) and a set of $1 PC speakers. Will see what I can do.
Alan,
I hate to sound smug, but I wouldn't even try. I climbed out of the primordial audio sludge a long time ago.
Dave
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